Top Parenting Tips for Fitness Entrepreneurs


Mike Warkentin (00:00):
You do not eat that Lego! You get that outta your mouth. Do not wave that pool noodle at me, young man. Oh, Joleen, I’m dying here. You’ve got three kids. How do you run a fitness business and be a parent?

Joleen Bingham (00:11):
I have a lot of tips that I am happy to share with you.

Mike Warkentin (00:15):
Oh, thank goodness. Entrepreneurs with kids, this is the show for you. This is “Run a Profitable Gym,” and this episode will help you run a great business and be a great parent. I’m Mike Warkentin. I would love it if you would hit subscribe and give us a little love on whatever platform you are currently on today. I’ve got Joleen Bingham with me. She’s the CEO O of 13 Stripes Fitness, she’s a Two-Brain mentor, and she’s the parent of three young kids. She’s here today to help you run a great gym and be a great parent. Joleen, welcome to the show. Are your kids sleeping?

Joleen Bingham (00:46):
No. I got them off to school today.

Mike Warkentin (00:49):
Okay. It’s super efficient already. I need you to show us that you are the real deal. Give us proof of life here. What’s the craziest entrepreneur-with-kids story that you’ve got?

Joleen Bingham (00:57):
Okay. So I don’t know if you would call it “crazy,” but it may be the most real entrepreneur-with-kids story. I had just had my second kid—he is now almost 7 years old, so this was almost 7 years ago. And it was well before I knew systems and boundaries and scheduling. And I had just given birth. I’m talking like literally just given birth in the hospital. And I’m sitting on my phone answering emails and taking a call from somebody who called the gym because I thought I had to answer them at that point. And so that’s kind of when I knew some things had to change. That was a little ridiculous. But wow, I thought I had to respond to everybody immediately or the world and my business would end.

Mike Warkentin (01:40):
So actually in the hospital and you’re just like taking gym calls and taking care of business.

Joleen Bingham (01:45):
Yes, yes.

Mike Warkentin (01:47):

You’re tough!

Joleen Bingham (01:49):
It, it was not something I would ever do again and definitely not something I recommend anybody ever do.

Mike Warkentin (01:54):
But that story clearly shows listeners that you know what you’re talking about, and you’ve got not one but three kids. What are the ages of them?

Joleen Bingham (02:03):
16, 6 and 4.

Mike Warkentin (02:05):
Okay. So you’ve got a nice range. They’re spread out, they’ve got different schedules. One is probably almost driving, one is probably still not even close to those things. That one is still playing with different toys. You’ve got a whole bunch of different things going on. Plus you’ve got a husband, a thriving business, a mentorship practice—you’ve got all the stuff going on, so we’re gonna get into it and help people figure out how to manage their stuff as well. So how did your life change as an entrepreneur when you had kids? Were you prepared for this or was it huge challenge? What was a shock? What happened?

Joleen Bingham (02:31):
I would say it was a huge shock. So I’m a little bit different because I have an older kid. I had a kid before we became entrepreneurs. So I had that experience of coming home after work, and you had the whole night to yourself. And then we bought our first gym when my son was 10 days old. No, we bought it right before he was born. Sorry, getting my timeline. But at that point, I realized I had no clue what I was doing. This was pre-Chris Cooper days. This was before I reached out to Two-Brain, before I had gotten help. And I thought, “Oh, you know, I’m just gonna buy a gym, have my workout with my friends,” and then the reality sets in of “I don’t know what I’m doing. I have a kid who needs me for everything. I have a 10-year-old who needs me for everything, and I have a business that I have to be there all the time for.” So big shock.

Mike Warkentin (03:30):
Okay. First of all, as a woman, you are “the thing” for a new baby. I’m just basing this on what my male friends have told me: The mother at that point is everything to that child. So was that your experience where you had to provide everything, and you’ve gotta run a business at the same time?

Joleen Bingham (03:52):
Yeah, even more so with my third child. And I know there was only two-year difference there, but she was what I would call “a high-needs baby.” She would have to be carried everywhere. I would have to hold her. She couldn’t sleep without touching my hand or my arm. So very much so exactly how you describe it.

Mike Warkentin (04:10):
Okay. And when you had the other ones, the stress, is it exponential? Does it multiply? Do more children equal more challenges as a parent?

Joleen Bingham (04:22):
Yes, from a standpoint of scheduling, right. You know, you’ve gotta be multiple places multiple times, but also making sure they get attention. So now you’re not just dealing with a business that needs attention. Now you have three separate individuals that rely on you for everything that need attention as well and love—and deserve it.

Mike Warkentin (04:37):
Yep. And I don’t have kids, but I’ve got two giant dogs who are actually right behind me. My wife told me when we were getting the second one, she’s like, “Well, if you’ve got one, you might as well get two. It’s just the same amount of work.” And it’s definitely not. It is exponentially more work. It is not double the work. It is like four times the work because they multiply off each other. So I’m sure kids are kind of the same way. So let’s get into tips here. What are your top tips for entrepreneurs with kids?

Joleen Bingham (05:01):
All right, so tip number one is schedule, schedule, schedule, schedule, and have a weekly meeting about your schedule. Plan it out in advance. I’m known as an operations person, so anybody in Two-Brain knows I like to systemize things. I like things in order. I wasn’t always that way. I became that way because I had to. So I have a weekly schedule that I review once a week. Every single night before I go to bed, I sit down and I write out my daily schedule. So everybody always has it in Google planner, but I create it. I schedule admin time. I schedule time with my kids, schedule one-on-one time with my kids, and I schedule my workout time, which I think is really important for entrepreneurs, especially in the fitness industry. I think sometimes we forget that part of it. But I run my family calendar like I would run my business calendar.

Mike Warkentin (05:50):
Wow. So that’s pretty regimented.

Joleen Bingham (05:52):
It’s very regimented. While I say that though, you also have to be flexible within it, right? Because if you have kids, kind of like dogs, they don’t have a, a certain schedule that they follow. They don’t look at a calendar and say, “Oh, it’s Monday, we have to go to school today.” You have to tell them that when they’re little. So that flexibility of, “Well, maybe I have a set schedule, but now that it changes.” I’ve gotta sit down and rewrite it, too.

Mike Warkentin (06:18):
Yeah. I have a problem where I will dial in a schedule, and if something goes off the rails, I get mad and then I get frustrated. Then everything else starts to suffer. So being flexible within that is definitely a great tip. And I’m gonna ask you this as a follow-up question. You said you weren’t always this way. So for people who aren’t schedule oriented, how do you make that shift to suddenly look at your entire day, hour by hour, minute by minute?

Joleen Bingham (06:39):
Being very intentional with it. And so every night before I go to bed, taking five minutes, right? I’m old school: I still use a paper planner to schedule up my day and my tasks. Everything lives on Google so that we can share it. But I think that’s the first step is understanding I have to do it. And setting aside just five minutes to start.

Mike Warkentin (06:59):
Okay. So people out there, if you are not a schedule person, you can change that. Take some baby steps toward it and start small. But use the tools available to you, whether you’re a paper-and-pen kind of person or whether you’re a Google person, put those schedules in place. I love the idea of reviewing it before you go to bed. That kind of sets your intention for the next day. Like, that’s a great thing where you wake up and you already know what you have to do. Do you lay your clothes out before you get up, too?

Joleen Bingham (07:22):
I do actually. Well, and I’ll say this is kind of a funny parent story. My 4-year-old still, she’s my high-needs kid. She still has to sleep with me. So some of it is I like to plan it out, but some of it is “I don’t wanna wake her up.” So I can kind of sneak out the door, and I’m an early morning person, so I sneak out and get to work.

Mike Warkentin (07:42):
Okay. And I can tell you that we’re recording this podcast early on a Monday morning, and Joleen was here at the exact appointed minute on schedule. So there you go. That’s proof. What’s your next tip? What else you got?

Joleen Bingham (07:54):
Boundaries. Set boundaries and stick with them. And again, this came from me sitting in that hospital bed with my son. I had no boundaries at that point, obviously a newborn and on the phone. But have defined work and family times. And I think that came from that. But the thing that really dialed in for me is I read a book by Todd Herman called “The Alter Ego Effect.” And talking about when you’re in one role, being that role, and when you’re in another role, being that role. That’s simplifying it. But that’s really what I got from it. But as a parent, creating the version of myself that I wanted to be at home. But that means I needed to create boundaries for that. So when I walk in the door, my attention is on my kids, and I’m not sitting there thinking, “Oh man, I have five leads I have to follow up with,” or, “My business is gonna fall apart because I don’t answer emails.” Because if I don’t give my kids the attention, they’re gonna fall apart realistically. So having those boundaries and knowing that I can say no to certain things that aren’t during that time. So work time is work time. Family time is family time.

Mike Warkentin (09:03):
Okay. So let me ask you a scenario question. I love the story you told at the beginning. It’s pretty powerful. You’ve just been through this birth, you’re lying there in a hospital, and you’re probably drugged outta your mind and in pain, and you’re answering the phone. Like that’s just a surreal experience to me. What would you do now? What would you have set up or how would you set the boundaries now if, let’s say, you had a fourth kid and the phone rings in your hospital room. How would you have made that switch that you don’t have to answer anymore?

Joleen Bingham (09:30):
Ok, well let’s clarify: There will be no fourth kid.

Mike Warkentin (09:34):
Sure. I understand.

Joleen Bingham (09:36):
Three is plenty. What I would do is put a process and system someplace for my staff to answer the phone. You know, SOPs. I’m a big operations person, so writing out how somebody would need to do it, creating the process for if it didn’t go well. If they needed me in an emergency, what that would look like, what my response time to them would be. I don’t think there’s any emergency that anybody would need to reach me at this point. There wasn’t then, either. I just didn’t know that.

Mike Warkentin (10:03):
So the lesson for people who are listening and saying “I can’t not respond to the call” is not to abdicate responsibility. It’s to delegate it, and create the systems and procedures and roles that will then handle that stuff so that you don’t have to. It still gets handled, but not by you. Correct?

Joleen Bingham (10:19):
Correct. Exactly. Yeah.

Mike Warkentin (10:21):

I’ve had the same experience where some work stress is bugging me, and I’m trying to interact with dogs or a family member. You feel guilty and horrible about it. And Two-Brain mentor Kenny Markwardt has written about this, too: He sets specific time for his kids aside. And you said that before in the show that you actually do it with each individual child, correct?

Joleen Bingham (10:39):
Yeah, I realized that, and my 6-year-old actually reminded me of this. I’ve done this for a long time, but he needed some attention from me in this past week and he said it. We went on a field trip, and he said, “You know, mom, it was really nice just to get you one on one.” And that triggered like, “Okay, I need to be even more intentional.” What I’m doing with him once a month isn’t enough. Maybe once a week we sit down and play a video game. Cause that’s how he likes to interact.

Mike Warkentin (11:06):
What does he play?

Joleen Bingham (11:08):
He likes to play BedWars, which is in Roblox. Mm-Hmm. So that and a pet simulator. I don’t know. All the Roblox games seem to like him.

Mike Warkentin (11:16):
Nice. And how do you block off that time? Like, do you set a do-not-disturb thing or do you put your phone in a tinfoil bag? Or what do you do so that all the intrusions of being a mentor and a business owner don’t get into that family time now? How do you maintain those boundaries?

Joleen Bingham (11:30):
Two different things. So I wear a watch that has notifications, which I know a lot of people do. Garmin, Apple, whatever those are. I turn off the notification. So I shut off the Bluetooth to my watch, and then I also put my phone on the counter—away. Or if it’s really been a distracting day, I’ll actually put it in my bedroom so that I can’t just walk by it and look at it.

Mike Warkentin (11:49):
Yeah, I’ve noticed that’s a big one. And if you’ve ever find that you’re constantly nervous twitching to your phone, putting it physically—like even 10 feet away or out of sight—really stops you from doing it because all of a sudden you can’t just tap your pockets and find out that it’s there. You have to physically get up and do it. And that really helps you keep your attention on what you’re doing. That’s a good tip whether you’re working, podcasting, doing any other stuff or even working with a family member. What other tips have you got?

Joleen Bingham (12:17):
I just wanna add to that one. There’s a funny story with that. So if you really have a hard time with that, give your child the phone in a box. Tell them to put it somewhere for a little while.

Mike Warkentin (12:28):
That’s good! Kids are really good at hiding stuff.

Joleen Bingham (12:33):
Yes. Sometimes you really need that extra help.

Mike Warkentin (12:34):
Have you ever done that?

Joleen Bingham (12:37):
I did not intentionally do that, but that’s where I got the idea from.

Mike Warkentin (12:41):
Did you ever find it again?

Joleen Bingham:
I did, yeah.

Mike Warkentin:
 Okay. Cause I know some kids are so ingenious. Everybody has a nap on the couch and all of a sudden we don’t know where the phone went. What’s your next tip?

Joleen Bingham (12:51):
Okay, so the next tip is involve your kids. I just talked about setting boundaries, boundaries are fantastic—but your kids also can be part of your business and feel special and care about what you do and learn from you.

Mike Warkentin (13:08):
I wouldn’t have thought of this. Tell me more. This sounds awesome.

Joleen Bingham (13:11):
So I think one of the things that I’ve talked to a lot of entrepreneurs about is that school isn’t teaching their kids the skills they need to run their businesses later in life. Schools are great, right? I love teachers. I was a teacher myself for 12 years, but they don’t teach entrepreneurial skills for the most part. Some do. But if you have your kids as part of your business, they get to spend time with you. You’re teaching them life skills. You’re teaching them how to interact with people, which I think is huge with all the technology that we have. Those customer-service skills. You’re teaching them multitasking, problem solving, all these things that they need to be successful in life. And they get to spend time with you and see you and have fun with it.

Mike Warkentin (13:51):
That’s a brilliant one. I wouldn’t have thought of that. Gimme an example. Like what do you do? Gimme maybe two examples. One with your oldest child and one with one of the younger ones. How would you integrate them into a business in a way that will help them be part of the family and the business?

Joleen Bingham (14:05):
So my oldest one, as a 16-year-old, the, the way that I have helped integrate her is having her teach me social-media stuff. That sounds silly, but she’s the one who taught me how to use TikTok. Your videos on it were fantastic. But she’s the one who showed me the apps to use, and she looks over things and says, “Oh mom, that’s not great.” Or, “This is good.” So that’s how I get her involved. My little ones, it’s something simple as, you know, helping to set up weights. I don’t train anybody anymore. But if they’re in the gym when somebody else is there with a trainer, they can go get a band, they can go get weights, they can see how those interactions occur.

Mike Warkentin (14:45):
Wow. You know, maybe five or six years ago, I was at a client’s house for a Christmas party or something like that. And I ended up playing video games. I think it was a racing game with one of the kids. And we were talking. Cause I’m a media guy, I said, “What’s cool? What are you guys looking at on social media now?” Cause I knew it wasn’t Facebook anymore. Like, kids don’t really care about that. And he said, “TikTok.” And that was the first that I had heard of it. And I can’t remember if it was six years ago or not, but it was whenever it was starting to become a big deal. And it was a kid who told me about it. And he must have been, I wanna say 14, 15 at the time. It’s the same advice I give to gym owners now when they say “I don’t know how to film things. I hate social media. I don’t understand.” I’m like, “Find the coolest kid at your gym and give that person the phone and let that kid run with it.” Because kids now grow up on this stuff. You’re not picking it up as a 35-year-old person or whatever. They’re living it and acquiring it. Your best social media manager might be your 12-year-old.

Joleen Bingham (15:42):

Mike Warkentin (15:44):
And you’ve got your little one, or one of your little ones, setting up weights and just learning client service and helping people out and putting things back and organization, scheduling, all these different things. They’re actually huge life skills.

Joleen Bingham (15:56):
Yeah. And we give welcome bags out, simple ones, and she’ll help put those together.

Mike Warkentin (16:01):
Wow. So do they understand, the older one for sure, but the younger ones, do they understand the concept of the family business? You know, like is that a thing? My parents had traditional jobs. I wouldn’t maybe have understood that at a young age. Do yours?

Joleen Bingham (16:13):
I would say if you ask my 4-year-old, it’s hilarious because I actually filmed her doing this. She wants to work out when she grows up. So apparently she thinks mom and dad work out all day for their job. But she understands that she comes to the place that we own and that is ours.

Mike Warkentin (16:30):
What a cool concept that is to give a kid at a young age.

Joleen Bingham (16:33):
Yes. And I’m hoping that even if she chooses to do something other than the business—my oldest has made it clear she is not being a part of this business, at least for now, right? She’s in that stage. But I’m hoping that at least I’m giving them the skills to create the life that they want for themselves.

Mike Warkentin (16:48):
And I know Chris Cooper, Two-Brain founder, is big on this, and he does do outreach in his local community to try and get young entrepreneurs to understand the concepts and grow as entrepreneurs to try some cool stuff and to look at entrepreneurialism as a career choice. And again, not a criticism of the education system, but an entrepreneurial mindset is very different than a memorized-and-recite kind of mindset that you often get in a school setting. So Chris works really hard on that. He’s also got the Business Is Good podcast. If you’re looking for more from Chris and more on entrepreneurialism in general, that’s where you get it: Business Is good. Check that out. More tips. What else is in the bag?

Joleen Bingham (17:25):
Oh, one of my last tips biggest tips is dealing with guilt as a parent. So I know I call it “mom guilt,” but I’m, I’m sure there are a lot of dads who feel the same thing. So if I say “mom guilt,” I mean “parent guilt” as a whole. There are so many times that you know, we think that we’re doing something wrong because we’re not following the standard pathway, right? Entrepreneurs are a different breed of people, right? We don’t work a nine to five. But it’s just like when you talk to your clients about eating that extra piece of cake, right? So you had an extra piece of cheesecake over the weekend, guilt is what you let it be, right? Like you could take that guilt and run with it for a month if you wanted to and beat yourself up for it. But guilt is really what you create of it. So look at it as kind of this cultural expectation that others have of you as to what your work hours should be. So, for example, I work and I do mentoring calls between certain hours. I do clients between certain hours, but those hours might not be normal. And somebody might look at me and say, “Well, why are you doing this at this time? You should be with your kids then.” But they don’t see that I’m at every single sports event or that I am at every field trip or that I’m at every drop-off and pickup. They have their preconceived notions. We see that so much on social media, right? “This is what a parent should be. This is what a mom should do.” We kind of take that in so we’re not screwing up our kids, right? We have to get past that. We’re not screwing up our kids. We are giving them tools that they can use for the rest of their lives. And I know we fear. I do every single day. I look at my 16-year-old, and I’m like, “What did I mess up today with her?” Like, I know I screwed something up, but we don’t have to listen to others, right? So if our kids are happy, they’re healthy and we’re spending time with them, it doesn’t have to fit society’s view of it.

Mike Warkentin (19:25):
That’s interesting. And it, he reminds me of an old “Seinfeld” episode. He’s a comedian, right? So he works Friday night, he works Saturday night. Like he doesn’t have traditional hours. And I remember he was doing a show and everybody’s in the dressing room, and they’re just behaving like animals. And he says to them, “I know it doesn’t look like work to you, but this is how I make a living.” And that’s really the entrepreneurial thing. Because I stagger around in a bathroom a lot of the time. I think my neighbors, they don’t have a clue what I do, but this is the media job working remotely, right? So same thing for entrepreneurs. I’ve done the same thing. People don’t understand if they have nine-to-five jobs. They don’t understand when you worked. Maybe you worked like 4 a.m. to 10 a.m. and now you’re taking three hours off in the middle of the day. Like that’s an interesting perspective. So that’s really cool what you’re saying: to really evaluate what your own situation is, not through someone else’s lens, but through your own lens. And I’m gonna guess you’ll tell me a lot of the stuff that you’ve talked about here would work not just in terms of dealing with kids as an entrepreneur but dealing with a spouse or a significant other as an entrepreneur. Would you agree with that?

Joleen Bingham (20:29):
Very much so. Almost exactly the same. And I think it really speaks to dealing with people in general—your friends, your family. Your kids just are a little more dependent on you.

Mike Warkentin (20:39):
Now your husband is very involved in the business, correct?

Joleen Bingham (20:40):
Correct. Yes.

Mike Warkentin (20:42):
Yeah. I have the same situation. My wife and I are very involved in our business, but I know there are others where one works a traditional job and one runs a business. There can be some major conflicts in there because they’re two different worlds, where one person has a nine to five, and I know they’re getting blurry with lines now, but maybe regimented time periods that they schedule for work. Whereas the other person’s running a business, and there are no boundaries unless you set them. So everything you’ve said here, even if you’re listening as a person without kids, it works with a partner. I think. So think about how some of that works. Joleen, we’ve talked about problem solving and so forth. Tell me about some of the joys. We touched on the one of involving your kids in your business. Tell me about some of the other joys of being an entrepreneur and having kids. What’s good?

Joleen Bingham (21:23):
I think the biggest one is I’m there for my kids. And I’ve worked really hard, and that’s where those systems and processes that we talked about come into play. Being able to be on their field trips, being able to drop ’em off at school and pick them up at school. If they get sick, I don’t have to worry about childcare. I can be the one who’s there with them, or my spouse can, right? Because we do have the flexibility within our business. I’m able to provide my kids the type of schooling and look at non-traditional schooling for them as well because of it. So to me, the biggest thing is freedom of time and that time with my kids.

Mike Warkentin (21:57):
Yeah. And that’s a huge one. And you know, I’ve experienced the same thing where I say a sick family member or somebody needs something. If you run your business properly, you can take some time to take care of that. And that’s just a beautiful thing. A lot of owners will be out there saying, “I cannot see a path to this.” So my question for you as a mentor is how did gym owners get away from “I’m overwhelmed, I’ve got kids, I wanna be a better parent, I wanna be a better business owner. I have no clue how to do it. I’m overwhelmed and freaking out”? How do they get from that to where you are, where there are systems and processes and freedom of time?

Joleen Bingham (22:28):
First of all, hire a mentor.

Mike Warkentin (22:31):
Number one, work with you.

Joleen Bingham (22:32):
Well, yes, but number one is finding somebody to help you, right? Mm-Hmm. Knowing that you need help. That’s where I started. I picked up the phone and said, “I can’t do this on my own. I have no clue what I’m doing.” The second thing is you start simple. You write down what it is that you need somebody else to do. Write out your tasks, right? You don’t have to have a hundred-page staff playbook, right? You don’t have to have it on, you know, the app. Write the steps out and teach somebody how to do it.

Mike Warkentin (23:01):
And that could be as simple as just cleaning the floor, right?

Joleen Bingham (23:03):
Yeah. As simple as cleaning the floor. It could be as simple as answering the phone for you so that if you’re in the hospital having a kid, you don’t have to answer the phone. And so it can be simple, but I think we get too overwhelmed. So take the small tasks and start there.

Mike Warkentin (23:16):

So that’s step one, guys. And if you’re listening and you’re struggling with this, write down one task that you can offload and tell someone else how to do it. And then hire someone to do that task. And if you need a tip, start with cleaning. That is the easiest job to offload in most businesses. “You fill the mop bucket, to this level. You put this much soap in. You mop from here to here. It should take this long.” Go hire that out. That’s an hour of your time bought back to spend with your family. You can then take that process, apply it to your business from the very bottom, all the way to the very top so you can become a CEO of a whole bunch of people. We can teach you how to do that. Joleen, have you worked with parents who have been overwhelmed and then successfully helped them transition into like basically versions of you?

Joleen Bingham (23:58):
Yes. Yes. A lot of them are now at the Tinker Stage.

Mike Warkentin (24:04):
So Tinker is our upper-level entrepreneurial program. When you’ve got a great business running and you are looking for other projects, upper-level stuff, that’s the group. So you’ve actually managed to get stressed, parenting business owners into that group?

Joleen Bingham (24:14):
Yes, correct.

Mike Warkentin (24:15):
Wow. Okay. All right. So parents with kids, I say this on the show every time, no successful business owner that I know does not have systems and processes. It’s boring. It’s not sexy. But systems are the foundation. Systems allow you to have freedom as an entrepreneur. If you want to understand how to set these processes in place, how to build these systems, how to do it very fast with help from templates and done-for-you resources, Two-Brain has them. Give us a call. Go to our website, check the book-a-call link. It’s also in the show notes. Check in with us. We can help you do this stuff faster so that you can get the freedom of time that you deserve and your family deserves. Joleen, thanks so much for sharing your time with us. What do you do next? What does your schedule say next?

Joleen Bingham (24:56):
Next, I’m getting on a mentoring call to help another gym owner,

Mike Warkentin (25:00):
And when’s child time today?

Joleen Bingham (25:02):
Child time today is at 2:30. Pick up.

Mike Warkentin (25:06):

Joleen has it on the top of her head. She reviewed this the night before. She knows exactly what she’s doing in the next hours. That was Joleen Bingham. This is “Run a Profitable Gym.” This is where the best gym owners in the world tell you exactly what they’re doing so that you can have the exact same success. Please subscribe for more episodes wherever you’re watching or listening. If you’re on YouTube, I’d love it if you hit that like button as well. Thanks so much. Now here’s Chris Cooper with a final comment.

Chris Cooper (25:30):

Hey, it’s Two-Brain founder Chris Cooper with a quick note. We created the Gym Owners United Facebook group to help you run a profitable gym. Thousands of gym owners just like you have already joined in the group. We share sound advice about the business of fitness every day. I answer questions, I run free webinars, and I give away all kinds of great resources to help you grow your gym. I’d love to have you in that group. It’s Gym Owners United on Facebook, or go to to join. Do it today!

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